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ScubaCPA

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I JUST FINISHED LESSON 30 OF LEVEL 5 SPANISH ... This has been a long hard (but fun) road. As I have mentioned before I do each lesson twice. So I have actually completed the full program TWICE. It took me well over two years to do it. Each lesson takes about 3 or 4 hours so that means I spent over 1,000 hours. There were times when I almost gave up and did not think I would be able to make it. But I just kept plugging along. Thanks Sonia for the lessons. I am going to miss seeing you on a regular basis. I plan on revisiting a few lessons here and there when I find I have a problem. Now on to improving my knowledge, and getting more comfortable with engaging in conversations. This will be much easier now that I have the Fluenz grammer and vocabulary base to work off of. I wonder how many people who start, actually finish?

I JUST FINISHED LESSON 30 OF LEVEL 5 SPANISH ... This has been a long hard (but fun) road. As I have mentioned before I do each lesson twice. So I have actually completed the full program TWICE. It took me well over two years to do it. Each lesson takes about 3 or 4 hours so that means I spent over 1,000 hours. There were times when I almost gave up and did not think I would be able to make it. But I just kept plugging along.

Thanks Sonia for the lessons. I am going to miss seeing you on a regular basis. I plan on revisiting a few lessons here and there when I find I have a problem. Now on to improving my knowledge, and getting more comfortable with engaging in conversations. This will be much easier now that I have the Fluenz grammer and vocabulary base to work off of.

I wonder how many people who start, actually finish?

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JonG
following up on your methodology - did you do the entire lesson twice or just the exercises? what did you find was the key for you?

following up on your methodology - did you do the entire lesson twice or just the exercises?
what did you find was the key for you?

ScubaCPA
JonG - Yes, I did the entire lesson twice. I would basically do a leapfrog. For example: Monday Lesson 1, Tuesday Lesson 2, Wednesday Lesson 3, Thursday Repeat Lesson 1, Friday Lesson 4, Saturday Repeat Lesson 2, Monday Lesson 5, Tuesday Repeat Lesson 3 ... etc. What would happen is that during my repeat of lesson 1 after having done lesson 2 and 3 (which contained some lesson 1 reinforcement) a bell would go off in my head and I'd say "Oh that's why".

JonG - Yes, I did the entire lesson twice. I would basically do a leapfrog. For example: Monday Lesson 1, Tuesday Lesson 2, Wednesday Lesson 3, Thursday Repeat Lesson 1, Friday Lesson 4, Saturday Repeat Lesson 2, Monday Lesson 5, Tuesday Repeat Lesson 3 ... etc. What would happen is that during my repeat of lesson 1 after having done lesson 2 and 3 (which contained some lesson 1 reinforcement) a bell would go off in my head and I'd say "Oh that's why".

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When you have the personal "a" immediately before a verb that begins with a silent h as in "hacer" do you pronounce the stand alone "a" first? For example; I would say " a acer", but when I listen to the speaker in the write the phrase you hear portion of the program she seems to be just saying "acer" and skipping the first a. Or is she just speaking so fast I can't hear it? What is correct in this case? Thank you.

When you have the personal "a" immediately before a verb that begins with a silent h as in "hacer" do you pronounce the stand alone "a" first? For example; I would say " a acer", but when I listen to the speaker in the write the phrase you hear portion of the program she seems to be just saying "acer" and skipping the first a. Or is she just speaking so fast I can't hear it? What is correct in this case? Thank you.

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Fabrice
it's probably because the speaker is saying it fast. In the sentence "Qué hay a hacer“ for example you would probably hear "Qué hayacer”

it's probably because the speaker is saying it fast. In the sentence "Qué hay a hacer“ for example you would probably hear "Qué hayacer”

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Wow ... is it just my imagination or is the woman who speaks in "write the phrase you hear" trying to establish a new speed speaking record mid way through level 5? I have to listen about 10 times to understand her (and often have to give up and hit "answer"). Did the developers of the program do this on purpose to challenge us? If so ... they succeeded. I live part time in Cozumel Mexico, and the native Spanish speakers never speak that fast when they know they are talking to a non native speaker.

Wow ... is it just my imagination or is the woman who speaks in "write the phrase you hear" trying to establish a new speed speaking record mid way through level 5? I have to listen about 10 times to understand her (and often have to give up and hit "answer"). Did the developers of the program do this on purpose to challenge us? If so ... they succeeded. I live part time in Cozumel Mexico, and the native Spanish speakers never speak that fast when they know they are talking to a non native speaker.

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Wow ... I just finished Session 4 or Level 5 Spanish. The session is all about "There used to be". I felt like my head was going to explode about 1/2 way through. It is the hardest lesson yet. I will have to redo it at least 3 times to be comfortable. Is all of Level 5 this hard? I am wondering if I am bumping up to the maximum skill level that my pea brain is capable of learning.

Wow ... I just finished Session 4 or Level 5 Spanish. The session is all about "There used to be". I felt like my head was going to explode about 1/2 way through. It is the hardest lesson yet. I will have to redo it at least 3 times to be comfortable. Is all of Level 5 this hard? I am wondering if I am bumping up to the maximum skill level that my pea brain is capable of learning.

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Fabrice
Yep it's tough but let it sink, take a few days off maybe. Then as Sonia says, they will break this into little bits so that it gets easier to understand and more natural to use.

Yep it's tough but let it sink, take a few days off maybe. Then as Sonia says, they will break this into little bits so that it gets easier to understand and more natural to use.

DYerks
I found the first few sessions of Level 5 much more demanding than previous levels, but then the rest of the sessions seemed to be at the same level of ease as those in Levels 1-4. I was a little bummed because I felt ready to be pushed harder. Still a good experience though.

I found the first few sessions of Level 5 much more demanding than previous levels, but then the rest of the sessions seemed to be at the same level of ease as those in Levels 1-4. I was a little bummed because I felt ready to be pushed harder. Still a good experience though.

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Can someone please shed light on this question for me? In write the phrase you hear the following two sentences appear: 1) Quiero pedir un asiento en el pasillo, así estoy más cómoda. 2) Yo siempre pido un asiento cerca de la salida de emergencia porque es más cómodo. Why does the first sentence us a feminine "cómoda" and in the second the masculine "cómodo"? They both seem to be referring to "asiento" which is masculine. So I would have expected both sentences to use cómodo. Thank you in advance for your help.

Can someone please shed light on this question for me?
In write the phrase you hear the following two sentences appear:
1) Quiero pedir un asiento en el pasillo, así estoy más cómoda.
2) Yo siempre pido un asiento cerca de la salida de emergencia porque es más cómodo.
Why does the first sentence us a feminine "cómoda" and in the second the masculine "cómodo"?
They both seem to be referring to "asiento" which is masculine. So I would have expected both sentences to use cómodo.
Thank you in advance for your help.

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ScubaCPA
Thank you. So it's the cómodo/cómoda that tells us the gender of the speaker, correct? Otherwise we would have no way of knowing (other than from the context of the situation which we don't have), because estoy and yo could be either a man or a woman.

Thank you. So it's the cómodo/cómoda that tells us the gender of the speaker, correct? Otherwise we would have no way of knowing (other than from the context of the situation which we don't have), because estoy and yo could be either a man or a woman.

Apolonia D.
Yes, "yo estoy" could refer to a man or a woman, so the use of the feminine form "cómoda" is what is telling you that the speaker is a woman.

Yes, "yo estoy" could refer to a man or a woman, so the use of the feminine form "cómoda" is what is telling you that the speaker is a woman.

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I have been racking my brain on this one and need help. In Spanish 4 lesson 27. In this lesson "I follow you" is "yo lo sigo". I had thought it would be "yo te sigo". It seems to me that "yo lo sigo" would be "I follow it". Can someone set me straight? Gracias por su ayuda.

I have been racking my brain on this one and need help. In Spanish 4 lesson 27. In this lesson "I follow you" is "yo lo sigo". I had thought it would be "yo te sigo". It seems to me that "yo lo sigo" would be "I follow it". Can someone set me straight? Gracias por su ayuda.

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Andrew Kelly
I think that 'lo' here stands for 'usted', the formal 'you' instead of the informal 'te'.

I think that 'lo' here stands for 'usted', the formal 'you' instead of the informal 'te'.

Apolonia D.
Hi, Andrew is right, "yo te sigo" would be "I follow you(i)" because "te" is the pronoun we use for the informal you. "Yo lo sigo" could be translated as "I follow you (formal)", "I follow him" or "I follow it", depending on context. Hope this helps!

Hi, Andrew is right, "yo te sigo" would be "I follow you(i)" because "te" is the pronoun we use for the informal you. "Yo lo sigo" could be translated as "I follow you (formal)", "I follow him" or "I follow it", depending on context. Hope this helps!

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I can't believe that I made it all the way to lesson 20 in level 4 before I discovered this. Duh ... In "repeat the words" and "repeat the phrases" if you click and hold on the phrase the English translation appears. I found this totally by accident when I clicked the phrase instead of the play button. Boy would that have been helpful to know earlier! It is very useful. I thought I would mention it just in case any one else is as clueless as I was.

I can't believe that I made it all the way to lesson 20 in level 4 before I discovered this. Duh ... In "repeat the words" and "repeat the phrases" if you click and hold on the phrase the English translation appears. I found this totally by accident when I clicked the phrase instead of the play button. Boy would that have been helpful to know earlier! It is very useful. I thought I would mention it just in case any one else is as clueless as I was.

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Fabrice
Yes this is great. What I wish was that there would be a prounciation too.

Yes this is great. What I wish was that there would be a prounciation too.

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I have another suggestion. The online program has a time limit (which makes sense to have) which logs you out after a certain period of time (I think about 2 hours?) even if you are in the middle to typing. Then you have to log back in. 2 hours was just about right for the original version of global Spanish. But in the new upgraded version the lessons are more in depth and they always take me more than two hours to complete. In light of the more in depth lessons might you consider a longer time limit before getting bounced out? I am now always getting logged out while in the middle to typing. Or better yet instead of an overall time limit how about a timeout based on inactivity?

I have another suggestion. The online program has a time limit (which makes sense to have) which logs you out after a certain period of time (I think about 2 hours?) even if you are in the middle to typing. Then you have to log back in. 2 hours was just about right for the original version of global Spanish. But in the new upgraded version the lessons are more in depth and they always take me more than two hours to complete. In light of the more in depth lessons might you consider a longer time limit before getting bounced out? I am now always getting logged out while in the middle to typing. Or better yet instead of an overall time limit how about a timeout based on inactivity?

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ScubaCPA
Andy. Has there been any consideration to increasing the timeout limit on the on line version?

Andy. Has there been any consideration to increasing the timeout limit on the on line version?

andy@fluenz
I've sent this to our engineers to look into. Thanks for reporting.

I've sent this to our engineers to look into. Thanks for reporting.

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Comment: For consideration of future updates, please be aware that black print on a purple background is very hard for us old fogeys (over 60) to read. Specifically in the "pick the right answer". I usually have to just skip it because I can't read it (and I am wearing my glasses).

Comment: For consideration of future updates, please be aware that black print on a purple background is very hard for us old fogeys (over 60) to read. Specifically in the "pick the right answer". I usually have to just skip it because I can't read it (and I am wearing my glasses).

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Sweetestjoy
You can't see the arrow and barely the print with the black on dark green. It's frustrating.

You can't see the arrow and barely the print with the black on dark green. It's frustrating.

andy@fluenz
We updated this, so it should be white and purple. Have you installed the updates ?

We updated this, so it should be white and purple. Have you installed the updates ?

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In level 4 lesson 12 - I was struggling with the direct and indirect objects but am starting to get it. I thought I had it pretty good until I encountered the following correct answer "Los visitamos ayer en la tarde y les trajimos una torta de chocolate". Why is the second them "les" while the first them was "los"? It's the same them that we visited and gave the cake to? Thank you in advance for helping me understand.

In level 4 lesson 12 - I was struggling with the direct and indirect objects but am starting to get it. I thought I had it pretty good until I encountered the following correct answer "Los visitamos ayer en la tarde y les trajimos una torta de chocolate". Why is the second them "les" while the first them was "los"? It's the same them that we visited and gave the cake to?

Thank you in advance for helping me understand.

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ScubaCPA
Thanks. It's getting clearer. I am going to redo that lesson.

Thanks. It's getting clearer. I am going to redo that lesson.

ScubaCPA
GOT IT! I did lesson 13 (which had a little more D.O. and I.O. and then went back and did lesson 12 again. The penny finally dropped!

GOT IT! I did lesson 13 (which had a little more D.O. and I.O. and then went back and did lesson 12 again. The penny finally dropped!

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