no

peter.kripp

Posts: 0
Bellingham, WA
I am at German Level 2 Session 8. During the last few sessions I have noticed that the German speakers sometimes don't pronounce the -en at the end of some words. In particular this has come up with the words Ihnen, Personen, and einen. This seems to only happen in certain contexts. When I practice speaking I always pronounce these out so that the -en is still heard. Is this pronunciation important? Should I drop the -en sounds when I don't hear it pronounced in the listening exercises? This has brought a little confusion so wanted to ask and clarify. Thanks.

I am at German Level 2 Session 8. During the last few sessions I have noticed that the German speakers sometimes don't pronounce the -en at the end of some words. In particular this has come up with the words Ihnen, Personen, and einen. This seems to only happen in certain contexts. When I practice speaking I always pronounce these out so that the -en is still heard. Is this pronunciation important? Should I drop the -en sounds when I don't hear it pronounced in the listening exercises? This has brought a little confusion so wanted to ask and clarify. Thanks.

View all 6 comments
This question has been solved
Lee R
I've noticed similar issues with spanish. Makes it a little difficult to follow the native speaker as well as being able to have a conversation with a native speaker. Plus the native speakers sometimes slur 2 words into one. I guess it'll take a lot of time to be able to follow native speakers in both the computer course as well as television, movies, and radio programs.

I've noticed similar issues with spanish. Makes it a little difficult to follow the native speaker as well as being able to have a conversation with a native speaker. Plus the native speakers sometimes slur 2 words into one. I guess it'll take a lot of time to be able to follow native speakers in both the computer course as well as television, movies, and radio programs.

Emilie Poyet
Hi Peter, Andy is right, like in most languages, pronunciation varies across borders and people, which explains these differences. Now in the particular case you're mentioning, my sensation is that when speaking at natural pace or fast pace, German native speakers tend to "swallow" the EN endings, to pronounce it faster, they drop the "E" so sometimes you might just hear a quick final "N" or nothing at all. My advice for you would be to keep pronouncing it though, it is perfectly correct and this way you make sure people will clearly understand you, especially as a beginner. Little by little, with practice, you will reach a more natural pronunciation and accent by imitating more and more, and these little "shortcuts" when speaking come with time, but it's great that you're already able to spot them! tschüss!

Hi Peter, Andy is right, like in most languages, pronunciation varies across borders and people, which explains these differences. Now in the particular case you're mentioning, my sensation is that when speaking at natural pace or fast pace, German native speakers tend to "swallow" the EN endings, to pronounce it faster, they drop the "E" so sometimes you might just hear a quick final "N" or nothing at all. My advice for you would be to keep pronouncing it though, it is perfectly correct and this way you make sure people will clearly understand you, especially as a beginner. Little by little, with practice, you will reach a more natural pronunciation and accent by imitating more and more, and these little "shortcuts" when speaking come with time, but it's great that you're already able to spot them! tschüss!

Post Comment
In levels 1 and 2 every so often it is mentioned to check out the resources on the Fluenz Commons. However when I am in the Commons I don't see much here. I put myself within the German language and I see some questions people have posted, there is a general Sonia's Blog, but that is about it. I get a sense from the program that there should be a lot more here that would be helpful. Am I missing something?

In levels 1 and 2 every so often it is mentioned to check out the resources on the Fluenz Commons. However when I am in the Commons I don't see much here. I put myself within the German language and I see some questions people have posted, there is a general Sonia's Blog, but that is about it. I get a sense from the program that there should be a lot more here that would be helpful. Am I missing something?

This question has been solved
peter.kripp
Thanks for the reply. That makes more sense now. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'll look forward to seeing when the update is ready.

Thanks for the reply. That makes more sense now. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'll look forward to seeing when the update is ready.

andy@fluenz
Hi Peter, Welcome to Fluenz Commons. The site here is meant to be a way for users to connect to one another and ask language-related questions. We used to have the flashcards and podcasts here, but we've built them directly into the program, so this is what's left now. We're also working on an update to the Commons. All the best with your German!

Hi Peter, Welcome to Fluenz Commons. The site here is meant to be a way for users to connect to one another and ask language-related questions. We used to have the flashcards and podcasts here, but we've built them directly into the program, so this is what's left now. We're also working on an update to the Commons. All the best with your German!

Post Comment
Unlike Level 1 I am unable to keep track of after which session I should be listening to the next Comprehension track. This was easier to follow in Level 1, but not now in Level 2. Is there a guide somewhere to help? In the first few sessions I have been able to track the Pronunciation tracks, perhaps I need to follow the same patterns for Comprehension?

Unlike Level 1 I am unable to keep track of after which session I should be listening to the next Comprehension track. This was easier to follow in Level 1, but not now in Level 2. Is there a guide somewhere to help? In the first few sessions I have been able to track the Pronunciation tracks, perhaps I need to follow the same patterns for Comprehension?

This question has been solved
peter.kripp
Thank you so much. This is super helpful. Much appreciated.

Thank you so much. This is super helpful. Much appreciated.

Emilie Poyet
Hi peter.kripp, we are actually working on releasing the pronunciation and comprehension scripts for our users, in the meantime, you can use this for level 2: Pronunciation: Track 1: Intro Track 2: sessions 1 to 4 Track 3: sessions 5 to 8 Track 4: sessions 9 to 12 Track 5: sessions 13 to 16 Track 6: sessions 17 to 20 Track 7: sessions 21 to 26 Track 8: sessions 27 to 30 Comprehension: Track 1: sessions 1 to 3 Track 2: sessions 4 to 7 Track 3: sessions 8 to 12 Track 4: sessions 13 to 15 Track 5: sessions 16 to 18 Track 6: sessions 19 to 22 Track 7: sessions 23 to 26 Track 8: sessions 27 to 30

Hi peter.kripp, we are actually working on releasing the pronunciation and comprehension scripts for our users, in the meantime, you can use this for level 2:
Pronunciation:
Track 1: Intro
Track 2: sessions 1 to 4
Track 3: sessions 5 to 8
Track 4: sessions 9 to 12
Track 5: sessions 13 to 16
Track 6: sessions 17 to 20
Track 7: sessions 21 to 26
Track 8: sessions 27 to 30
Comprehension:
Track 1: sessions 1 to 3
Track 2: sessions 4 to 7
Track 3: sessions 8 to 12
Track 4: sessions 13 to 15
Track 5: sessions 16 to 18
Track 6: sessions 19 to 22
Track 7: sessions 23 to 26
Track 8: sessions 27 to 30

Post Comment
X