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mshideler

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For some reason, this started yesterday, I cannot login to the online version as it claims that either my password or email address is incorrect, Local PC version logs right in automatically using the same credentials as my browser based method (auto user and password filled). I haven't changed anything but it is not going in via browser anymore. How to fix?

For some reason, this started yesterday, I cannot login to the online version as it claims that either my password or email address is incorrect,

Local PC version logs right in automatically using the same credentials as my browser based method (auto user and password filled). I haven't changed anything but it is not going in via browser anymore. How to fix?

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andy@fluenz
Please send us an email to usersupport@fluenz.com and we'll be happy to help troubleshoot.

Please send us an email to usersupport@fluenz.com and we'll be happy to help troubleshoot.

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So just how much of how we hear differences in the way that French is pronounced is due to regional accents or just in how an individual might say certain sounds or words? I am watching a few shows on Netflix in French and every now and then one of the actors (well dubbed voice) says something differently that what Fluenz shows as well as multiple youtube videos. The lack of a trilled / throat clearing sounding R is one example. Even on a simple word like "très" the R is extremely soft and barely makes a whimper while other voices nail it. Then I run into the way various programs cover some of the vowel sounds with consistency across resources but then some words come in and violate the pronunciation guides. I cannot tell if this is due to regional differences or the way some individuals speak. A couple of examples - BON (sounds like a nasally BOHN) and Bonne (sounds like BUHN). I also run into people saying the vowel combo AU as more of a an O like in OBEY while someone else, even saying the same word, almost combines O from OBEY with OO from MOO. Could this also come from different speakers pursing their lips more or less than another native speaker? So far, picking up things when the pronunciations vary is not troublesome but I would like to sound like I can speak it properly and not like someone with a slightly off way of speaking or some regional and not common accent taught me to speak. As noted above I use multiple sources for listening practice in addition to Fluenz. I am just not entirely sure on who to try to mirror when speaking. Any tips? Maybe I a different type of media or a specific show or audio book in which the French pronunciations are closer to spot on?

So just how much of how we hear differences in the way that French is pronounced is due to regional accents or just in how an individual might say certain sounds or words?

I am watching a few shows on Netflix in French and every now and then one of the actors (well dubbed voice) says something differently that what Fluenz shows as well as multiple youtube videos. The lack of a trilled / throat clearing sounding R is one example. Even on a simple word like "très" the R is extremely soft and barely makes a whimper while other voices nail it.

Then I run into the way various programs cover some of the vowel sounds with consistency across resources but then some words come in and violate the pronunciation guides. I cannot tell if this is due to regional differences or the way some individuals speak. A couple of examples - BON (sounds like a nasally BOHN) and Bonne (sounds like BUHN). I also run into people saying the vowel combo AU as more of a an O like in OBEY while someone else, even saying the same word, almost combines O from OBEY with OO from MOO. Could this also come from different speakers pursing their lips more or less than another native speaker?

So far, picking up things when the pronunciations vary is not troublesome but I would like to sound like I can speak it properly and not like someone with a slightly off way of speaking or some regional and not common accent taught me to speak. As noted above I use multiple sources for listening practice in addition to Fluenz. I am just not entirely sure on who to try to mirror when speaking.

Any tips? Maybe I a different type of media or a specific show or audio book in which the French pronunciations are closer to spot on?

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weezie1345
Either way, you're going to keep your American accent so it is better not to worry too much about it. And it's better not to force the R sound and to have your own accent. You'll still be understood and the French will think it's charming.

Either way, you're going to keep your American accent so it is better not to worry too much about it. And it's better not to force the R sound and to have your own accent. You'll still be understood and the French will think it's charming.

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Not really a 'getting started' issue but the post creation is missing good options. I just got the upgraded French, love it BUT the volume needs to be normalized on everything. I don't know if this can be fixed on the French version or not, but in the future the volume of the lecture portions need to match the audio portions of the exercises. Using headphone I nearly get my ear drums blown out when I go from an exercise back to a lecture. I adjust the volume but then when I go back to the exercises I have to crank the volume back up. It is a bigger issue when using it online via browser as opposed to the offline version that comes from the locally installed software. On the previous version does not have this issue either through a browser or the locally installed software (I just checked it as I wrote this message). The volume problem is like when you are watching a TV show and everything seems normal volume wise and then a commercial comes on and blows you out of your chair. Please look into it as the volume difference is almost enough to hurt and is at least pretty annoying with mild anger. Since I am a slow learner I don't always remember to turn the volume up or down when I hit 'Next Workout' so I either end up not hearing the dialog or I get my ears blown out. I would hate to have this audio error on the rest of the updates. I recommend someone in house comparing, with headphones on, French level 1 session 1 with Sonya and then the French Upgrade level 1 session 1 with Caroline and do both their lecture portion and then go right into the first dialog on each one, adjust the volume as needed then go back to a lecture from Caroline and get ready.

Not really a 'getting started' issue but the post creation is missing good options.

I just got the upgraded French, love it BUT the volume needs to be normalized on everything. I don't know if this can be fixed on the French version or not, but in the future the volume of the lecture portions need to match the audio portions of the exercises. Using headphone I nearly get my ear drums blown out when I go from an exercise back to a lecture. I adjust the volume but then when I go back to the exercises I have to crank the volume back up.

It is a bigger issue when using it online via browser as opposed to the offline version that comes from the locally installed software.

On the previous version does not have this issue either through a browser or the locally installed software (I just checked it as I wrote this message).

The volume problem is like when you are watching a TV show and everything seems normal volume wise and then a commercial comes on and blows you out of your chair.

Please look into it as the volume difference is almost enough to hurt and is at least pretty annoying with mild anger. Since I am a slow learner I don't always remember to turn the volume up or down when I hit 'Next Workout' so I either end up not hearing the dialog or I get my ears blown out. I would hate to have this audio error on the rest of the updates. I recommend someone in house comparing, with headphones on, French level 1 session 1 with Sonya and then the French Upgrade level 1 session 1 with Caroline and do both their lecture portion and then go right into the first dialog on each one, adjust the volume as needed then go back to a lecture from Caroline and get ready.

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mshideler
awesome and thanks for having the team look into it.

awesome and thanks for having the team look into it.

andy@fluenz
The fix is updated for this. Thanks everyone for the help.

The fix is updated for this. Thanks everyone for the help.

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"This year we've re-recorded all of Fluenz French, soon to be available to every single user as well." is there an ETA / target date as to when the updated content will be pushed out to users?

"This year we've re-recorded all of Fluenz French, soon to be available to every single user as well."

is there an ETA / target date as to when the updated content will be pushed out to users?

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mshideler
will do. Thanks!

will do. Thanks!

andy@fluenz
The new content is available now and we'll start emailing everyone soon. In the meantime, please email us at usersupport@fluenz.com and we can get you setup with that right away.

The new content is available now and we'll start emailing everyone soon. In the meantime, please email us at usersupport@fluenz.com and we can get you setup with that right away.

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Just out of curiosity, for those that are new to French via Fluenz or similar methods, about how long did it take you for your listening skills to catch up to your reading and writing skills? I seem to be able to translate quite nicely back and forth via the written word but my ear is still hearing periodic French words now and then mixed in with what sounds like someone with a swollen tongue talking. I listen to French everyday through various means (Fluenz podcasts, lesson dialog reviews, television, other pod casts, etc) and my ear is just not picking up much at all. I am about six weeks in, and loving it thus far aside from my slow listening skills. Speaking it hasn't help from what I can tell. It seems like that my listening, writing, reading, speaking are all completely compartmentalized from each other rather than over lapping. So, for all you French learners, was the listening part slow and steady? Or maybe very slow and then you had a big break through? Just trying to gauge where I am at and some possibilities of what I can expect. thanks much!

Just out of curiosity, for those that are new to French via Fluenz or similar methods, about how long did it take you for your listening skills to catch up to your reading and writing skills?

I seem to be able to translate quite nicely back and forth via the written word but my ear is still hearing periodic French words now and then mixed in with what sounds like someone with a swollen tongue talking. I listen to French everyday through various means (Fluenz podcasts, lesson dialog reviews, television, other pod casts, etc) and my ear is just not picking up much at all. I am about six weeks in, and loving it thus far aside from my slow listening skills. Speaking it hasn't help from what I can tell. It seems like that my listening, writing, reading, speaking are all completely compartmentalized from each other rather than over lapping.

So, for all you French learners, was the listening part slow and steady? Or maybe very slow and then you had a big break through?

Just trying to gauge where I am at and some possibilities of what I can expect.

thanks much!

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mshideler
you are the man! Thanks for the time you took to answer my questions. It sounds like Alliance Française will be something that I try to pursue in the future, after a move of course since I am not close to one at the moment.

you are the man! Thanks for the time you took to answer my questions. It sounds like Alliance Française will be something that I try to pursue in the future, after a move of course since I am not close to one at the moment.

Mike W
For me the best part about taking classes at Alliance Française is that I do get to practice my oral skills. I am still taking classes there btw. They also have activities where you get the opportunity to interact and meet other people as you suggested. The best activity I've participated in was Samedi tout en français. It's where you spend the days speaking only French, playing games, doing role plays etc. That was awesome and it really got me into the mode of thinking in French. The other important thing about classes there, is that you have the opportunity to advance your French education. Fluenz through level 5 takes you to the A2 level of French, which is the Advanced Beginner level. Beyond that level, there are several more verb forms as well as a lot more grammar. Depending on your goals, how far you want to go into your study of French, I believe Alliance Française is the best option. Happy to help, and all the best to you.

For me the best part about taking classes at Alliance Française is that I do get to practice my oral skills. I am still taking classes there btw. They also have activities where you get the opportunity to interact and meet other people as you suggested. The best activity I've participated in was Samedi tout en français. It's where you spend the days speaking only French, playing games, doing role plays etc. That was awesome and it really got me into the mode of thinking in French. The other important thing about classes there, is that you have the opportunity to advance your French education. Fluenz through level 5 takes you to the A2 level of French, which is the Advanced Beginner level. Beyond that level, there are several more verb forms as well as a lot more grammar. Depending on your goals, how far you want to go into your study of French, I believe Alliance Française is the best option.

Happy to help, and all the best to you.

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A few times I ran into a strange error in the exercises "Write the phrase you read" section (level 1 right now). I would have the right answer but the "Next" button would not work and the text would shake like the answer was wrong. I would review the typed verbiage letter by letter and I was right. I would then click to see the answer and I matched and I could not figure out what to do so I would retype the answer again and it would take. I managed to recreate it on accident and have since verified that it is repeatable everytime. On my keyboard the ESC key is close enough to the ~ key that I bump it. Hitting the ESC key does not display a character or even a space since the cursor does not move but it does count as input for your answer. Since you have no idea if you bumped the ESC key, or maybe some other hidden / no character key, you can have what appears to everyone's eyes at a right answer but the software will detect is as wrong. The only way to fix it is to delete your whole answer and start over. Very low level entry issue but it could frustrate users if they cannot figure out what is going on. Thanks!

A few times I ran into a strange error in the exercises "Write the phrase you read" section (level 1 right now). I would have the right answer but the "Next" button would not work and the text would shake like the answer was wrong. I would review the typed verbiage letter by letter and I was right. I would then click to see the answer and I matched and I could not figure out what to do so I would retype the answer again and it would take.

I managed to recreate it on accident and have since verified that it is repeatable everytime. On my keyboard the ESC key is close enough to the ~ key that I bump it. Hitting the ESC key does not display a character or even a space since the cursor does not move but it does count as input for your answer. Since you have no idea if you bumped the ESC key, or maybe some other hidden / no character key, you can have what appears to everyone's eyes at a right answer but the software will detect is as wrong. The only way to fix it is to delete your whole answer and start over.

Very low level entry issue but it could frustrate users if they cannot figure out what is going on.

Thanks!

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DennisG
Yeah, sorry. It was a bit unclear from your original post. You can always go here to get a quick answer to your question. http://fluenz.com/fluenz-support/

Yeah, sorry. It was a bit unclear from your original post. You can always go here to get a quick answer to your question. http://fluenz.com/fluenz-support/

mshideler
thanks. Not really needing an answer. Just putting it under tech issues for when they review the forums they will see something to look into for a future, low hanging fruit fix.

thanks. Not really needing an answer. Just putting it under tech issues for when they review the forums they will see something to look into for a future, low hanging fruit fix.

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Are there plans to roll out a version of the Fluenz app that works on amazon Kindle? If you have certain devices, as you may know, such as a kindle you cannot use the google app store. This means that some of us cannot use the mobile app :-( When, or will, this be address in the future?

Are there plans to roll out a version of the Fluenz app that works on amazon Kindle?

If you have certain devices, as you may know, such as a kindle you cannot use the google app store. This means that some of us cannot use the mobile app :-(

When, or will, this be address in the future?

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duncmon@msn.com
As a BRAND NEW Fluenz user (got it for Christmas) - I was terribly bummed to find that the app won't work on my Samsung tablet. Yes, it will work on my phone, so all is not lost, but I was really looking forward to viewing this on my tablet. An Android tablet compatible app would be GREAT. Thank you.

As a BRAND NEW Fluenz user (got it for Christmas) - I was terribly bummed to find that the app won't work on my Samsung tablet. Yes, it will work on my phone, so all is not lost, but I was really looking forward to viewing this on my tablet. An Android tablet compatible app would be GREAT. Thank you.

andy@fluenz
Sorry we don't have plans for a Kindle App at this time, but we'll take this into consideration.

Sorry we don't have plans for a Kindle App at this time, but we'll take this into consideration.

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I just ordered French 1-5 today and I am very excited to get started. However, from all my research on the internet I have not been able to pin-down a few things since reviews seem to keep what I am after more general or not even touched on. My idea for using the program is to do one lesson in the morning when all is quiet and I am alone (well, the wife is sleeping). Then repeat that same lesson in the evening with a drill session in the middle of the day from the lesson that I am on. Then, the next day, repeat the previous day, lesson in the morning, drill in the middle of the day, then repeat the lesson again in the evening. This would give me four repeats of each lesson over two days with then each level taking approximately two months, or ten months to complete the whole program. I also plan to pad my listening skills with Netflix shows and movies since many of them have not only multiple languages that you can watch a familiar movie in but also the appropriate subtitles. Even if you are into action style Marvel Universe TV series, such as Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, they have those in 5 different languages! With all that word salad out of the way, last question - is it intent to have high comprehension for each lesson before moving on, or are you supposed to progress through it on a regular schedule and not worry about pieces that you don't remember? I assume with the way that the program appears to be laid out that it is always reaching back to old skills as refreshers while giving you new skills. Any help, tips, or guidance is most appreciated! Michael

I just ordered French 1-5 today and I am very excited to get started. However, from all my research on the internet I have not been able to pin-down a few things since reviews seem to keep what I am after more general or not even touched on.

My idea for using the program is to do one lesson in the morning when all is quiet and I am alone (well, the wife is sleeping). Then repeat that same lesson in the evening with a drill session in the middle of the day from the lesson that I am on.

Then, the next day, repeat the previous day, lesson in the morning, drill in the middle of the day, then repeat the lesson again in the evening.

This would give me four repeats of each lesson over two days with then each level taking approximately two months, or ten months to complete the whole program.

I also plan to pad my listening skills with Netflix shows and movies since many of them have not only multiple languages that you can watch a familiar movie in but also the appropriate subtitles. Even if you are into action style Marvel Universe TV series, such as Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, they have those in 5 different languages!

With all that word salad out of the way, last question - is it intent to have high comprehension for each lesson before moving on, or are you supposed to progress through it on a regular schedule and not worry about pieces that you don't remember? I assume with the way that the program appears to be laid out that it is always reaching back to old skills as refreshers while giving you new skills.

Any help, tips, or guidance is most appreciated!

Michael

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Muso
Hi, yes I'm doing each lesson once - and I'm also doing a lesson every day. Every few days I listen to the audio portion in place of a lesson and that provides some review and some more practice. So far, so good - but if I find myself having trouble, I'll repeat the troublesome lesson no problem. I'm not in a hurry, I want to get it right :-) But moving too slowly could make it boring, too, so I'm finding a balance.

Hi, yes I'm doing each lesson once - and I'm also doing a lesson every day. Every few days I listen to the audio portion in place of a lesson and that provides some review and some more practice. So far, so good - but if I find myself having trouble, I'll repeat the troublesome lesson no problem. I'm not in a hurry, I want to get it right :-) But moving too slowly could make it boring, too, so I'm finding a balance.

Justin Wright
In my opinion, I've found that doing each lesson no more than twice works best. Forget about perfection, and keep moving forward. They repeat material anyway. I move on when I feel like I've gotten about 70 percent correct. I go nice and slow through each lesson and speak aloud as much as possible. I also talk to myself in French around the house. My wife thinks that's the greatest thing ever, especially when I do it during game of thrones.

In my opinion, I've found that doing each lesson no more than twice works best. Forget about perfection, and keep moving forward. They repeat material anyway. I move on when I feel like I've gotten about 70 percent correct. I go nice and slow through each lesson and speak aloud as much as possible. I also talk to myself in French around the house. My wife thinks that's the greatest thing ever, especially when I do it during game of thrones.

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