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Mike Dieker

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In German 5 session 6 - Match the Words, I've encountered an error. The German sentence reads as follows: "Also brauche ich dich nicht anrufen.", which is to be matched to "Therefore I don't need to call you." The error here is that when "brauchen" is to be used as a modal, it must be followed by an infinitive **WITH ZU**. This is unlike all other modal verbs in German, it's the "exception that makes the rule". So, the German sentence should be: "Also brauche ich dich nicht an*zu*rufen" (Zu goes in the middle of anrufen because it's a separable prefix verb.) Using brauchen as a modal without zu is indeed used in colloquial spoken language, but it is however frowned upon as well as stylistically and grammatically incorrect. The Germans even have a saying about this very specific mistake, which goes: "Wer brauchen ohne zu gebraucht, braucht brauchen gar nicht zu gebrauchen." (Translation: He who uses brauchen without zu, doesn't need to (shouldn't) use brauchen at all.) I hope this mistake will be fixed. Thanks, Mike

In German 5 session 6 - Match the Words, I've encountered an error.

The German sentence reads as follows: "Also brauche ich dich nicht anrufen.", which is to be matched to "Therefore I don't need to call you."

The error here is that when "brauchen" is to be used as a modal, it must be followed by an infinitive **WITH ZU**. This is unlike all other modal verbs in German, it's the "exception that makes the rule".

So, the German sentence should be: "Also brauche ich dich nicht an*zu*rufen" (Zu goes in the middle of anrufen because it's a separable prefix verb.)

Using brauchen as a modal without zu is indeed used in colloquial spoken language, but it is however frowned upon as well as stylistically and grammatically incorrect.

The Germans even have a saying about this very specific mistake, which goes: "Wer brauchen ohne zu gebraucht, braucht brauchen gar nicht zu gebrauchen." (Translation: He who uses brauchen without zu, doesn't need to (shouldn't) use brauchen at all.)

I hope this mistake will be fixed.

Thanks,

Mike

andy@fluenz
Thank you for reporting Mike. I've sent to our German content team. Cheers, Andy

Thank you for reporting Mike. I've sent to our German content team. Cheers, Andy

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Ich komme aus Kanada und leider gibt es in meiner Nähe, keine Leute, die Deutsch sprechen können. Wegen meiner deutschen Wurzeln habe ich entschieden, Deutsch zu lernen. Deshalb bin ich 9 Monate in Deutschland geblieben, währenddessen habe ich an einer deutschen Universität die deutsche Sprache studiert/gelernt. Nach 9 Monaten habe ich die "Telc C1 Hochschule" Prüfung abgelegt und bestanden. Ich war aber kein Anfänger, weil ich zu Hause in Kanada ein bisschen der Sprache selbst gelernt habe aber es gab auch komplette Anfänger, die auch nach den 9 Monaten die Prüfung bestanden haben. Ich hatte nur drei Viertel des Fluenz "German 4" Programms erledigt als ich die Prüfung geschrieben habe. (Ich hatte dann eigentlich keine Zeit dafür, weil ich immer viel Hausaufgabe vom Unterricht bekam). Ich bin zurzeit wieder in Kanada (seit Juli) und fange wieder mit Fluenz an. (jetzt mache ich "German 5"). Ich muss sagen, dass ich Angst davor habe, mein Deutschkentnisse zu verlieren, weil ich in Kanada die Sprache nicht benutze. Ich kann kaum warten, wieder in Deutschland zu sein und dort zu studieren. Und natürlich auch weil meine Freundin dort lebt. Leider muss ich aus gesundheitlichen Gründen in Kanada bleiben, aber wenn ich wieder gesund bin, fliege ich sofort wieder nach Deutschland. Wer noch ist nach dem Land ihrer Zielsprache gereist? Falls ihr Fragen dazu oder Fehler gefunden habt schreibt mal einen Kommentar!

Ich komme aus Kanada und leider gibt es in meiner Nähe, keine Leute, die Deutsch sprechen können.
Wegen meiner deutschen Wurzeln habe ich entschieden, Deutsch zu lernen.

Deshalb bin ich 9 Monate in Deutschland geblieben, währenddessen habe ich an einer deutschen Universität die deutsche Sprache studiert/gelernt. Nach 9 Monaten habe ich die "Telc C1 Hochschule" Prüfung abgelegt und bestanden.
Ich war aber kein Anfänger, weil ich zu Hause in Kanada ein bisschen der Sprache selbst gelernt habe aber es gab auch komplette Anfänger, die auch nach den 9 Monaten die Prüfung bestanden haben.
Ich hatte nur drei Viertel des Fluenz "German 4" Programms erledigt als ich die Prüfung geschrieben habe. (Ich hatte dann eigentlich keine Zeit dafür, weil ich immer viel Hausaufgabe vom Unterricht bekam).
Ich bin zurzeit wieder in Kanada (seit Juli) und fange wieder mit Fluenz an. (jetzt mache ich "German 5").

Ich muss sagen, dass ich Angst davor habe, mein Deutschkentnisse zu verlieren, weil ich in Kanada die Sprache nicht benutze.
Ich kann kaum warten, wieder in Deutschland zu sein und dort zu studieren. Und natürlich auch weil meine Freundin dort lebt. Leider muss ich aus gesundheitlichen Gründen in Kanada bleiben, aber wenn ich wieder gesund bin, fliege ich sofort wieder nach Deutschland.

Wer noch ist nach dem Land ihrer Zielsprache gereist?
Falls ihr Fragen dazu oder Fehler gefunden habt schreibt mal einen Kommentar!

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Not really a question, but: I've been visiting Fluenz Commons quite regularly for quite a long time now. And one day I could not access the site, I kept receiving a 404 Error. I assumed that maintenance was being done on the site. But this went on for weeks. I figured out that the Commons' URL had been changed from http://www.fluenz.com/commons to http://www.commons.fluenz.com . Any google results for the Commons forum uses the old URL and therefor can not be used. I was wondering if there was a warning given out to the users of a URL change that I missed, and the reason for the change. Thanks, Mike.

Not really a question, but:
I've been visiting Fluenz Commons quite regularly for quite a long time now. And one day I could not access the site, I kept receiving a 404 Error.
I assumed that maintenance was being done on the site. But this went on for weeks. I figured out that the Commons' URL had been changed from http://www.fluenz.com/commons to http://www.commons.fluenz.com . Any google results for the Commons forum uses the old URL and therefor can not be used. I was wondering if there was a warning given out to the users of a URL change that I missed, and the reason for the change.

Thanks, Mike.

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Veterano
I had the same problem about 6 weeks ago. I normally log on to commons probably 5 time a week to do flashcards and suddenly could not access commons. I had to email fluenz help and was given the new address with the explanation that their servers were being updated.

I had the same problem about 6 weeks ago. I normally log on to commons probably 5 time a week to do flashcards and suddenly could not access commons. I had to email fluenz help and was given the new address with the explanation that their servers were being updated.

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Hey Fluenz! I was looking over what the Fluenz website says we will work on from each level of the program. (Bottom of http://fluenz.com/languages/learn-german/ ) What I am confused about is that it says we will be introduced to reflexive verbs in level 2. Description in level 2: - "Introduction to reflexive verbs" - "the introduction of new structures and vocabulary (such as reflexive verbs, comparatives, and superlatives) combines with more serious responsibilities, such as going to the doctor and handling office tasks, preparing you to engage more seriously with the German-speaking world." Then in level 3 we will have: - "Extensive work on reflexive verbs" - "Meanwhile extensive work on reflexive verbs—a very common feature in German—and direct/indirect object pronouns will add a key dimension of complexity to your speech." Level 4 says: - "Conjugating reflexive verbs" The problem being that I am on level 4 session 9 and still have not worked with reflexives at all in the program (not even the pronoun "Sich"). So I am not expecting to even be conjugating them in this level. All my knowledge of reflexive verbs come from other resources, and they are quite important in German, so what am I missing here? Is the information on the website just wrong? Vielen Dank im Voraus Mike

Hey Fluenz!
I was looking over what the Fluenz website says we will work on from each level of the program.
(Bottom of http://fluenz.com/languages/learn-german/ )
What I am confused about is that it says we will be introduced to reflexive verbs in level 2.

Description in level 2:

- "Introduction to reflexive verbs"
- "the introduction of new structures and vocabulary (such as reflexive verbs, comparatives, and superlatives) combines with more serious responsibilities, such as going to the doctor and handling office tasks, preparing you to engage more seriously with the German-speaking world."

Then in level 3 we will have:

- "Extensive work on reflexive verbs"
- "Meanwhile extensive work on reflexive verbs—a very common feature in German—and direct/indirect object pronouns will add a key dimension of complexity to your speech."

Level 4 says:

- "Conjugating reflexive verbs"

The problem being that I am on level 4 session 9 and still have not worked with reflexives at all in the program (not even the pronoun "Sich"). So I am not expecting to even be conjugating them in this level. All my knowledge of reflexive verbs come from other resources, and they are quite important in German, so what am I missing here? Is the information on the website just wrong?

Vielen Dank im Voraus
Mike

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I found the Best e tutoring website providing the german learning classes by skype..

Joined this program here a week ago and got to know about several mistakes that I do very often..

Completely satisfied from the sessions and the lessons provided and they are helping me very much in learning the language...

Preply is a great platform for getting good tutors help especially for learning International Languages.

I highly recommend it..

Must use this for learning German conversation using Skype... http://preply.com/en/german-by-skype

Mike Dieker
Years later and the incorrect information remains on the site.

Years later and the incorrect information remains on the site.

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Hallo Leute! Today I found a video on youtube by the channel "smarterGerman" (https://www.youtube.com/user/smartergerman) This video is a song, with German lyrics being played simultaneously with a LITERAL translation. ***WHEN LISTENING TO THE SONG YOU MUST USE HEADPHONES AS ONE SIDE PLAYS THE GERMAN AND THE OTHER SIDE PLAYS THE ENGLISH*** The point of this is to learn the different structures of the language. I think it is worth checking out, smarterGerman plans on releasing more of these songs because of it's success among the viewers. Let me know what you all think and enjoy!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMfXmQh_Zw

Hallo Leute! Today I found a video on youtube by the channel "smarterGerman" (https://www.youtube.com/user/smartergerman)
This video is a song, with German lyrics being played simultaneously with a LITERAL translation. ***WHEN LISTENING TO THE SONG YOU MUST USE HEADPHONES AS ONE SIDE PLAYS THE GERMAN AND THE OTHER SIDE PLAYS THE ENGLISH*** The point of this is to learn the different structures of the language. I think it is worth checking out, smarterGerman plans on releasing more of these songs because of it's success among the viewers. Let me know what you all think and enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMfXmQh_Zw

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Hey Mike. Good to see you posting here. I moved to Germany from the USA a couple months ago. Moving to Wolfsburg soon. I have the advantage of having a German wife but she rarely speaks to me in German :/ I'll check those out when I get a chance

Hey Mike. Good to see you posting here. I moved to Germany from the USA a couple months ago. Moving to Wolfsburg soon. I have the advantage of having a German wife but she rarely speaks to me in German :/
I'll check those out when I get a chance

Mike Dieker
Hello Brandon, I would try to convince your wife to speak german with you as much as possible, and if you have a smartphone download the LEO German - English dictionary app (it's free-- but unfortunately requires internet access, if you have a data plan or always have wifi, that should be no problem). Every time you come across a word thats unfamiliar just type it in and you will get the meaning, pronunciation, gender, plural form etc. If its a verb you will be able to see the conjugation as well as past participles/simple past forms and even example sentences with the word in it. I have learned SO MUCH vocabulary this way! This app has been very useful for me. When I first got here and was trying to navigate the roads of Germany I had no idea what Umleitung meant, a simple search on the app told me it means "detour" which is obviously a useful word to know. I will be testing out more (mostly free) resources and will likely write a post on them sometime in the near future. I am very curious as to how much German you have learned with just two months of living in Germany, just through immersion. Best of luck -Mike

Hello Brandon, I would try to convince your wife to speak german with you as much as possible, and if you have a smartphone download the LEO German - English dictionary app (it's free-- but unfortunately requires internet access, if you have a data plan or always have wifi, that should be no problem). Every time you come across a word thats unfamiliar just type it in and you will get the meaning, pronunciation, gender, plural form etc. If its a verb you will be able to see the conjugation as well as past participles/simple past forms and even example sentences with the word in it. I have learned SO MUCH vocabulary this way!

This app has been very useful for me. When I first got here and was trying to navigate the roads of Germany I had no idea what Umleitung meant, a simple search on the app told me it means "detour" which is obviously a useful word to know.

I will be testing out more (mostly free) resources and will likely write a post on them sometime in the near future.

I am very curious as to how much German you have learned with just two months of living in Germany, just through immersion.

Best of luck
-Mike

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Okay I found a little problem in German 4 session 8 "Type the Conversation" The program accepts the following: "Perfekt. Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben." and "Perfekt, sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben." But does not accept "Perfekt, Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben." ... The problem being, in this context "Sie" is referring to the formal singular you, and therefore MUST be capitalised. So "Perfekt, Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben." should be accepted and "Perfekt, sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben" should NOT be accepted. -Mac OSX - f2.8 Updated Thanks in advanced! - Mike

Okay I found a little problem in German 4 session 8 "Type the Conversation"
The program accepts the following:
"Perfekt. Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben."
and
"Perfekt, sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben."
But does not accept
"Perfekt, Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben."

... The problem being, in this context "Sie" is referring to the formal singular you, and therefore MUST be capitalised.
So "Perfekt, Sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben." should be accepted and "Perfekt, sie müssen auch dieses Formular ausfüllen und unterschreiben" should NOT be accepted.

-Mac OSX - f2.8 Updated

Thanks in advanced!
- Mike

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FluenzLab
Hi Mike, thanks for pointing this out to us. We will look into this for you.

Hi Mike, thanks for pointing this out to us. We will look into this for you.

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Hallo Leute! In just 5 days I will be boarding a plane to Germany where I will stay and study German as well as Engineering for a year. I've been to Germany once before, on vacation in August of last year (didn't know much German back then). I'm curious to hear other Fluenz users' stories of visiting/living in Germany, any advice? I am on level 4 of Fluenz German but use other resources as well and often speak to German natives online, so language shouldn't be a problem (apart from dialects of course). Do any of you have upcoming plans or dreams of going to Germany or other German speaking countries? Viel Glück und viel Spaß! Mike

Hallo Leute!

In just 5 days I will be boarding a plane to Germany where I will stay and study German as well as Engineering for a year.
I've been to Germany once before, on vacation in August of last year (didn't know much German back then). I'm curious to hear other Fluenz users' stories of visiting/living in Germany, any advice?
I am on level 4 of Fluenz German but use other resources as well and often speak to German natives online, so language shouldn't be a problem (apart from dialects of course). Do any of you have upcoming plans or dreams of going to Germany or other German speaking countries?

Viel Glück und viel Spaß!
Mike

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andy@fluenz
Awesome news. It sounds like an amazing adventure. Let us all know how it goes for you. Best of luck and bon voyage!

Awesome news. It sounds like an amazing adventure. Let us all know how it goes for you. Best of luck and bon voyage!

Mike Dieker
Thanks Andy! I think full immersion is the ultimate test, I have been using my German skills everyday and I am always finding out new things from the day to day interactions. Unfortunately this means less time to use Fluenz and I'm only 7 sessions into level 4, but I try to squeeze it in whenever I have time! Best of luck to all! -Mike

Thanks Andy! I think full immersion is the ultimate test, I have been using my German skills everyday and I am always finding out new things from the day to day interactions. Unfortunately this means less time to use Fluenz and I'm only 7 sessions into level 4, but I try to squeeze it in whenever I have time!

Best of luck to all!
-Mike

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Hello, I have discovered a problem with my Fluenz German Audio CD for German 3 My problem is that track 6 and 7 are the same track (though one is one second longer than the other) this means I have track 7 twice once labeled as Track 06 and once labeled as Track 07 the CD. I am missing the actual Track 06 audio! At first I thought it was a problem with the importing of the audio from the CD, but after playing it directly from the CD I come across the same Issue. I was wondering if I am the only one experiencing this problem and if there was a way to get the correct Track 06 Audio. Thanks in advanced for any help, Mike

Hello, I have discovered a problem with my Fluenz German Audio CD for German 3
My problem is that track 6 and 7 are the same track (though one is one second longer than the other)
this means I have track 7 twice once labeled as Track 06 and once labeled as Track 07 the CD.
I am missing the actual Track 06 audio! At first I thought it was a problem with the importing of the audio from the CD, but after playing it directly from the CD I come across the same Issue.
I was wondering if I am the only one experiencing this problem and if there was a way to get the correct Track 06 Audio.

Thanks in advanced for any help,
Mike

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Mike Dieker
Thank you very much Andy!

Thank you very much Andy!

andy@fluenz
Hey guys, here's the correct track 6 for the Level 3 German audio here: http://tinyurl.com/q2rlmlq

Hey guys, here's the correct track 6 for the Level 3 German audio here: http://tinyurl.com/q2rlmlq

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Hello, I have come across a problem with the audio in the conversation of German 3 Session 29. The audio clearly says: "Ich bin bald im Urlaub und möchte in die Schweiz fahren" However the script reads as follows: "Ich bin bald im Urlaub und ich möchte in die Schweiz fahren" As you can see, the script has a second "ich" before "möchte" this causes a problem at the "Type the conversation" phase as the audio and answer are not the same. I hope this will be addressed in future updates! Thanks again, Mike

Hello, I have come across a problem with the audio in the conversation of German 3 Session 29.
The audio clearly says: "Ich bin bald im Urlaub und möchte in die Schweiz fahren"
However the script reads as follows: "Ich bin bald im Urlaub und ich möchte in die Schweiz fahren"

As you can see, the script has a second "ich" before "möchte"
this causes a problem at the "Type the conversation" phase as the audio and answer are not the same.
I hope this will be addressed in future updates!
Thanks again,
Mike

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Mike Dieker
Okay, thank you very much for your time Andy.

Okay, thank you very much for your time Andy.

FluenzLab
Hallo Mike, danke for letting us know. That has now been corrected for you and the correct version will be available in the next update. Keep an eye on the Commons where we usually announce any updates.

Hallo Mike, danke for letting us know. That has now been corrected for you and the correct version will be available in the next update. Keep an eye on the Commons where we usually announce any updates.

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In Fluenz German 3, lesson 23, Match the Words it says "Gibt es eine Anprobe in diesm Geschäft". The word "diesem" is missing the second E. I am on a Mac and have already updated Fluenz.

In Fluenz German 3, lesson 23, Match the Words it says "Gibt es eine Anprobe in diesm Geschäft".
The word "diesem" is missing the second E.
I am on a Mac and have already updated Fluenz.

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