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I find Sophia's explanation of when to use "comprarli, comprarlo, etc, sort of confusing. Also, having the same problem with the explanation of when to use "quegli,vs quello etc". I've studied the charts that she shows but I also find those confusing. Can anyone please give me a simple explanation of these if possible? Thanks a lot!

I find Sophia's explanation of when to use "comprarli, comprarlo, etc, sort of confusing. Also, having the same problem with the explanation of when to use "quegli,vs quello etc". I've studied the charts that she shows but I also find those confusing. Can anyone please give me a simple explanation of these if possible? Thanks a lot!

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Kristin F.
It boils down to agreeing with the noun. In the examples you provided, the difference is between singular and plural nouns. In the first example, comprarli-versus comprarlo, the endings relate to the noun being referred to. So "Lo" is referring to a singular masculine noun, like "libro" for example. If you are saying "to buy the book" but you use the pronoun instead of the word "libro", now you are saying "to buy IT", "it" referring to libro. Because libro is masculine and in singular form, you say "comprarlo". If you were buying "them", meaning more than one book, you would say "comprarli", because "li" refers to the plural masculine. The same goes for quegli and quello. Its all about the endings matching up with the nouns. "that book" (or more accurately, "that one") would be quello. "Gli is used for masculine plural nouns that begin with a vowel or "z" or "s" plus a consonant. If this makes sense, I'd suggest coming up with a list of nouns you are familiar with, feminine and masculine, and figure out which pronouns would go with each of the nouns. I already mentioned Libro, try this with Valigia/Valigie (comprarla or comprarle), Stadio, and others. It can get confusing, but the best thing is to slog through it and come up with your own examples for each case. If you have questions, post back here. Good luck!

It boils down to agreeing with the noun. In the examples you provided, the difference is between singular and plural nouns. In the first example, comprarli-versus comprarlo, the endings relate to the noun being referred to. So "Lo" is referring to a singular masculine noun, like "libro" for example. If you are saying "to buy the book" but you use the pronoun instead of the word "libro", now you are saying "to buy IT", "it" referring to libro. Because libro is masculine and in singular form, you say "comprarlo". If you were buying "them", meaning more than one book, you would say "comprarli", because "li" refers to the plural masculine.

The same goes for quegli and quello. Its all about the endings matching up with the nouns. "that book" (or more accurately, "that one") would be quello. "Gli is used for masculine plural nouns that begin with a vowel or "z" or "s" plus a consonant.

If this makes sense, I'd suggest coming up with a list of nouns you are familiar with, feminine and masculine, and figure out which pronouns would go with each of the nouns. I already mentioned Libro, try this with Valigia/Valigie (comprarla or comprarle), Stadio, and others. It can get confusing, but the best thing is to slog through it and come up with your own examples for each case. If you have questions, post back here. Good luck!

Jeffrey Dennis-Strathmeyer
With respect to "quegli" etc., check the responses to your previous inquiry here.

With respect to "quegli" etc., check the responses to your previous inquiry here.

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I am very frustrated with Italian 3. The new teacher, though I am sure is a nice person, just does not have the same gift and style of teaching as Sonia Gil. For example, when I got to Session 3, suddenly, words were introduced with no detailed explanation of what, why and when they are used, as Sonia faithfully and expertly did with EVERY SINGLE LESSON in Italian 1 and 2. (I am one of those people that learning languages does not come easily to.) In Session 3, for example, phrases such as "quel passaporto", and "quello stadio" with absolutely no explanation when and why you use these. (Why is it not "quello passaporto" or "quel stadio". Also, I was completely confused by the introduction, again with no explanation of the phrase, "Quei palazzi". "quel" and "quei" had never been introduced in the course before and to suddenly have it introduced without an explanation IS MOST CONFUSING. As I said, I'm sure the new teacher is quite adequate for someone with a talent for learning languages or a background in Italian, but I really miss Sonia's careful explanations of every detail of her lesson. (The instructor merely directed the student to look at 3 very confusing graphs with no explanation of what was being taught). Up to this point, I was really enjoying my lessons with Sonia. Is there any way Sonia can be put something on this website with explanations of this and other things that are not explained in detail? Thanks for listening, and I hope I can get back to progressing in my Italian and enjoying my lessons!

I am very frustrated with Italian 3. The new teacher, though I am sure is a nice person, just does not have the same gift and style of teaching as Sonia Gil. For example, when I got to Session 3, suddenly, words were introduced with no detailed explanation of what, why and when they are used, as Sonia faithfully and expertly did with EVERY SINGLE LESSON in Italian 1 and 2. (I am one of those people that learning languages does not come easily to.) In Session 3, for example, phrases such as "quel passaporto", and "quello stadio" with absolutely no explanation when and why you use these. (Why is it not "quello passaporto" or "quel stadio". Also, I was completely confused by the introduction, again with no explanation of the phrase, "Quei palazzi". "quel" and "quei" had never been introduced in the course before and to suddenly have it introduced without an explanation IS MOST CONFUSING. As I said, I'm sure the new teacher is quite adequate for someone with a talent for learning languages or a background in Italian, but I really miss Sonia's careful explanations of every detail of her lesson. (The instructor merely directed the student to look at 3 very confusing graphs with no explanation of what was being taught). Up to this point, I was really enjoying my lessons with Sonia. Is there any way Sonia can be put something on this website with explanations of this and other things that are not explained in detail? Thanks for listening, and I hope I can get back to progressing in my Italian and enjoying my lessons!

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Susan Green
I have so enjoyed Fluenz Italian 1 and 2 and felt successful. Since starting Italian 3 I am not digesting anything. This is my first time in Fluenz commons and came here to see if it is just me and feel better that it is not but it doesn't change the fact that the program changed. I definitely want to be challenged but thought I could leave constructive criticism here for the programmers. I cannot understand the speakers during the tutorial anymore- new voices- no emotion and going so fast. I will take the suggestion to print out the chart and write it down re articles thank you but I feel this important lesson has been fast tracked and without proper understanding I cannot move on. Ive taken this lesson 3 times and am still not comprehending the explanations. I am very frustrated and don't think its Sophia it seems as if the process has changed and not enough attention placed on consistency. Hoping to move forward...............

I have so enjoyed Fluenz Italian 1 and 2 and felt successful. Since starting Italian 3 I am not digesting anything. This is my first time in Fluenz commons and came here to see if it is just me and feel better that it is not but it doesn't change the fact that the program changed. I definitely want to be challenged but thought I could leave constructive criticism here for the programmers.
I cannot understand the speakers during the tutorial anymore- new voices- no emotion and going so fast. I will take the suggestion to print out the chart and write it down re articles thank you but I feel this important lesson has been fast tracked and without proper understanding I cannot move on. Ive taken this lesson 3 times and am still not comprehending the explanations. I am very frustrated and don't think its Sophia it seems as if the process has changed and not enough attention placed on consistency. Hoping to move forward...............

ntucker
I had the same problem in beginning Level 3. It really sped up. However, I just finished Level 5 and the speaking gets much faster. Sophie opens up more as the levels go on, and I love her sharing cultural practices in her introductions. I am reviewing Levels 3-5 in preparation for my trip to Italy in September, and even though my comprehension is better, some of the dialog in Level 3 is really hard to understand. Just stick with it, it all gets (harder, but) better.

I had the same problem in beginning Level 3. It really sped up. However, I just finished Level 5 and the speaking gets much faster. Sophie opens up more as the levels go on, and I love her sharing cultural practices in her introductions. I am reviewing Levels 3-5 in preparation for my trip to Italy in September, and even though my comprehension is better, some of the dialog in Level 3 is really hard to understand. Just stick with it, it all gets (harder, but) better.

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I have really been enjoying studying Fluenz Italian. I have been through Italian 1 and 2 and recently started Italian 3. I was disappointed to see that Sonia Gil was not teaching this course. I started Italian 3 and was SO DISAPPOINTED in the new teacher's style of teaching. She seems to assume that you do not have to have things explained. Sonia was an ABSOLUTE GENIUS at making even difficult concepts so easy, especially for people who have had problems learning languages before. I've tried many different methods including Rosetta Stone, which I found to be a confusing mess, for the reason that they DIDN'T EXPLAIN THINGS! Now, I'm on Lesson 3 of Italian 3 and was shocked to find that at one particularly challenging part of the lesson, she merely pointed to 3 different GRAPHS and told us to memorize them! What?? No explanation at all of when and why we are supposed to use words, "quel' quei, quegli, and many others. It is very confusing and discouraging and something Sonia NEVER DID. She always completely explained why, when and where we used new terms and she made me (after trying about 6 different Italian learning methods), finally start to get a basic grasp of how Italian works. It was so wonderful I immediately started recommending Fluenz over Rosetta Stone to others who also wanted to learn Italian! Is there anyone at Fluenz that can help with the confusion? I really feel that not only was Ms. Gil a genius at languages (she taught herself Mandarin!) but she also understands how fellow English speakers look at language and has the very rare gift of "putting herself in our place" and breaking it down in a very simple, non stressful manner. Would it be possible to add explanations, (perhaps on this website as part of the LEARNING TOOLS) of some of these difficult concepts that the new teacher glosses over? (For a person who has a natural gift for learning languages, or who has a background in Italian, I'm sure her methods suffice, but for those of us who have extreme difficulty learning a language this help would be greatly appreciated!) Would it be possible for SONIA herself to explain some of these difficult concepts such as when to use words such as, "quel", "quei" "quegli" etc. on this website? It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for listening!

I have really been enjoying studying Fluenz Italian. I have been through Italian 1 and 2 and recently started Italian 3. I was disappointed to see that Sonia Gil was not teaching this course. I started Italian 3 and was SO DISAPPOINTED in the new teacher's style of teaching. She seems to assume that you do not have to have things explained. Sonia was an ABSOLUTE GENIUS at making even difficult concepts so easy, especially for people who have had problems learning languages before. I've tried many different methods including Rosetta Stone, which I found to be a confusing mess, for the reason that they DIDN'T EXPLAIN THINGS! Now, I'm on Lesson 3 of Italian 3 and was shocked to find that at one particularly challenging part of the lesson, she merely pointed to 3 different GRAPHS and told us to memorize them! What?? No explanation at all of when and why we are supposed to use words, "quel' quei, quegli, and many others. It is very confusing and discouraging and something Sonia NEVER DID. She always completely explained why, when and where we used new terms and she made me (after trying about 6 different Italian learning methods), finally start to get a basic grasp of how Italian works. It was so wonderful I immediately started recommending Fluenz over Rosetta Stone to others who also wanted to learn Italian! Is there anyone at Fluenz that can help with the confusion? I really feel that not only was Ms. Gil a genius at languages (she taught herself Mandarin!) but she also understands how fellow English speakers look at language and has the very rare gift of "putting herself in our place" and breaking it down in a very simple, non stressful manner. Would it be possible to add explanations, (perhaps on this website as part of the LEARNING TOOLS) of some of these difficult concepts that the new teacher glosses over? (For a person who has a natural gift for learning languages, or who has a background in Italian, I'm sure her methods suffice, but for those of us who have extreme difficulty learning a language this help would be greatly appreciated!) Would it be possible for SONIA herself to explain some of these difficult concepts such as when to use words such as, "quel", "quei" "quegli" etc. on this website? It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for listening!

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Dennis Cantoni
I would agree with Kristin. These adjectives are difficult to learn but with practice they become more familiar. Andy's explanation is excellent. It might help to focus on the definite pronouns first (il/la) and their variations and then notice the comparison to "quello/quella".

I would agree with Kristin. These adjectives are difficult to learn but with practice they become more familiar. Andy's explanation is excellent. It might help to focus on the definite pronouns first (il/la) and their variations and then notice the comparison to "quello/quella".

Jeffrey Dennis-Strathmeyer
I also struggled with the chart. Only belatedly, long after writing it down longhand, did it dawn on me that 8 of the 10 "quel" words were simply ""quel" + the definite article. The two exceptions were in the cases the articles "il" (use "quel" and not "Quelil") and "i" (use "quei" rather than "queli".)

I also struggled with the chart. Only belatedly, long after writing it down longhand, did it dawn on me that 8 of the 10 "quel" words were simply ""quel" + the definite article. The two exceptions were in the cases the articles "il" (use "quel" and not "Quelil") and "i" (use "quei" rather than "queli".)

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I am a person who has EXTREME DIFFICULTY LEARNING LANGUAGES! I have tried about 10 different methods for learning Italian to no avail. This included in-person classes and I even purchased Rosetta Stone which I found to be a confusing mess! That is why I was so pleasantly surprised when I took Italian 1 and 2 with Sonia Gil teaching! For the first time I finally started to grasp the language. She has something very few people have, namely THE GIFT OF TEACHING! She can make even difficult concepts simple and understandable. The measure of a truly great teacher is their ability to teach even a person who is not at all gifted in a given subject. That is why it is my hope that Sonia will once again take over the teaching of Italian 4 and 5! (Also, are there any versions of Italian 3 that Sonia teaches?) I shall be anxiously awaiting the release of Italian 4 and 5 if Sonia is once again teaching, and I shall continue to recommend your wonderful course over Rosetta Stone to my other friends who are also looking for a fun, efficient and easy way to learn Italian!

I am a person who has EXTREME DIFFICULTY LEARNING LANGUAGES! I have tried about 10 different methods for learning Italian to no avail. This included in-person classes and I even purchased Rosetta Stone which I found to be a confusing mess! That is why I was so pleasantly surprised when I took Italian 1 and 2 with Sonia Gil teaching! For the first time I finally started to grasp the language. She has something very few people have, namely THE GIFT OF TEACHING! She can make even difficult concepts simple and understandable. The measure of a truly great teacher is their ability to teach even a person who is not at all gifted in a given subject. That is why it is my hope that Sonia will once again take over the teaching of Italian 4 and 5! (Also, are there any versions of Italian 3 that Sonia teaches?) I shall be anxiously awaiting the release of Italian 4 and 5 if Sonia is once again teaching, and I shall continue to recommend your wonderful course over Rosetta Stone to my other friends who are also looking for a fun, efficient and easy way to learn Italian!

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Donna Persico
I, too, like Sophie's approach and am glad she's doing the higher levels.

I, too, like Sophie's approach and am glad she's doing the higher levels.

Melissa84
I agree. I prefer Sophie's style and approach (with all due respect to Sonia's obvious gift in developing language learning programs!).

I agree. I prefer Sophie's style and approach (with all due respect to Sonia's obvious gift in developing language learning programs!).

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