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ll, y - pronounced as a "j" in fluenz, I hear some speakers use this and some pronounce both as an english "y" - which, where, why the differences, i'm in Fluenz spanish 3 now.

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anglo learner2
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West Linn, Oregon
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Dec 28, 2012
Feb 28, 2013 at 9:04pm

ll, y - pronounced as a "j" in fluenz, I hear some speakers use this and some pronounce both as an english "y" - which, where, why the differences?, i'm in Fluenz spanish 3 now.

Daniel Mahoney
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Feb 28, 2013 at 9:09pm

My son's in-laws are all from Peru (which is why I am trying to learn Spanish). I asked them this same questions since they all pronouce the ll with a y sound. They say the j sound is an Argentinian thing.

James Bodnar
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Feb 28, 2013 at 10:08pm

maybe it is just me but i hear it both ways in fluenz.sometimes, for ella, i hear, eya, someyimes i hear eja. same variation in lots of other words. i am assuming we are being exposed to different Spanish LA dialects. Or am i just not listening close enough?

the wanderer
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Feb 28, 2013 at 10:57pm

At least Fluenz is somewhat consistent pronouncing both the "y" and "ll" as a "j" sound -- I've used some programs that went back and forth so much, it was dizzying. I posed this question to a Spanish philologist after one such program. He said the "y" sound is more standardized than "j" in Latin America, but the "j" is fairly common and by no means wrong. You'll hear the "j" sound used in various dialects in different countries, and some dialects will even distinguish between the two sounds depending on where it falls within the word. In Argentina, they generally don't use a "j" or a "y" sound -- but rather "sh"; even "yo" comes out "sho". Rest assured you'll be understood just about anywhere by any Spanish speaker regardless of which sound you make for "y" or "ll." Though if you use "sh," people will understand you, but they'll also think you're Argentinian (not that there's anything wrong with that).

anglo learner2
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West Linn, Oregon
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Mar 1, 2013 at 7:00pm

¡ Su respuesta es muy interesante, muchas gracias !

spanishdaisy08
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Doraville, Georgia
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Feb 23, 2013
Mar 1, 2013 at 8:24pm

! I teach Spanish & lived in Spain, but haven´t done the Fluenz program, so I can only respond as to my experience. In Argentina (& that area), the "ll" or "y" is pronounced with a "j" and/or "sh" depending on whether you´re male or female (I don´t remember which) & in southern Spain, they tend to have that pronunciation too

sierradave
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Progreso, Yucatan
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Dec 10, 2013
Dec 2, 2014 at 11:42am

I now live in Yucatan, Mexico, and the "j" sound seems to be the most common.

Fabrice
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San Diego, CA
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Dec 2, 2014 at 12:29pm

I'm just back from Argentina and they pronounce it "sh". Pollo sounds like "posho". Lllegar like "shegar".

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