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I DID IT ... I Finished the entire Spanish Program. WHEW ...

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ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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May 22, 2014
Sep 14, 2017 at 1:47pm

I JUST FINISHED LESSON 30 OF LEVEL 5 SPANISH ... This has been a long hard (but fun) road. As I have mentioned before I do each lesson twice. So I have actually completed the full program TWICE. It took me well over two years to do it. Each lesson takes about 3 or 4 hours so that means I spent over 1,000 hours. There were times when I almost gave up and did not think I would be able to make it. But I just kept plugging along.

Thanks Sonia for the lessons. I am going to miss seeing you on a regular basis. I plan on revisiting a few lessons here and there when I find I have a problem. Now on to improving my knowledge, and getting more comfortable with engaging in conversations. This will be much easier now that I have the Fluenz grammer and vocabulary base to work off of.

I wonder how many people who start, actually finish?

ojosdeverdes
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belleplaine, mn
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Sep 14, 2017 at 8:26pm

Congrats Scuba. To your last question, my guess is that the majority – without trying to get more specific – do not finish all 5 levels. Again, that's a guess. Speaking for myself, if asked I'd say without hesitation that I'm committed to finishing, I own levels 1 – 3 and upon starting level 3 I intend to purchase 4 and 5. Will I do what you have done? I don't know. I think we all reach a point when – and I can already feel it – we need to start using it or we'll forget some or much of what we learned and that's discouraging all by itself. Fortunately, there are 2 (maybe more) groups here in Minneapolis that meet weekly for the sole purpose of helping one another progress towards the common goal of becoming fluent in Spanish. I think you have achieved an incredible accomplishment and should be feeling very good about yourself right now. You did it mi amigo. Way to go!

ojosdeverdes
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belleplaine, mn
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Sep 15, 2017 at 4:35pm

Scuba. Now that you've finished the Fluenz program where will you turn next on your quest for fluency. On a scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate your fluency? I hope you'll still be posting and keeping us up to date on your methods and progress. Personally, I wish there was more activity on the Commons; people sharing experiences and so on. I think it was on Sonia's blog that I read the Commons will undergo a face lift of some sort. Maybe that'll help. Best of luck to you and I hope we'll be hearing from you. Adios, para ahora.

Arty1121
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Mar 12, 2017
Sep 15, 2017 at 10:35pm

Hello. I have a question. Do you understand Spanish now when watching the news let's say or watching a movie in Spanish ? Thanks

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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Sep 16, 2017 at 9:10am

Thank ojos. To answer your question about fluency. I would say I am at about 5 to 6 in reading and listening comprehension. But only about 3 in speaking. The Spanish to English dictionary in my head works pretty good. But the English to Spanish dictionary in my heard is much slower. But I understand that is natural. What will I do next? In addition to continuing to do what I have mentioned before (You Tube videos etc) I will do things to help in my speaking skills and comfort and exercise that English to Spanish dictionary in my head. I have engaged an on line tutor through iTalki and plan to do one or two sessions per week. I have not done it yet, but I will also hook up with some language exchange partners on iTalki or Tandem.

I also have the advantage that I now live part time in Mexico. I spend about 6 months in the US and 6 months in Mexico (I am in Mexico right now). Even though most of the local Mexicans speak English pretty well, lately I have been trying to us Spanish as much as possible in my interactions. And most are very good about politely correcting me. I will also continue the Friday evening coffee shop language exchange in my town that I told you about before. All the while continuing to watch You Tube videos about topics that I feel I am weak in. Good luck in your journey and I will continue to check back here every once in a while.

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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Sep 16, 2017 at 9:25am

Arty - I would say that I get about 1/2 of what is being said in a movie, some of that is filling in with context. With Telenovelas ... forget it ... they talk muy rapido. The news is a little better because they speak slower, so about the same 50%. A great movie to try is Casa De Mi Papa with Will Farrell, since he is a native English speaker speaking Spanish. I have watched that about 5 times now. Not because it is a great movie (it's pretty childish as most Will Farell movies are) but to help get my ear in gear as a step to understanding native Spanish speakers. When I watch a Spanish movie with English subtitles, I cover up the subtitle with my hand and only move it down if I don't understand something. I have watched a number of them on Netflix. If right at the start they are speaking to fast I end it and find another. As my ear gets better I will go back to those other ones.

Arty1121
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Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 16, 2017 at 2:40pm

ScubaCPA, good job! Thanks for responding. I am currently on French. Next is Spanish. Fluenz makes me wanna study more and more. It makes sense, even though I have to look some things up, but it is way way better than Rosetta. I am fluent in Russian so learning another language becomes so much easier. So, more languages you have under your belt easier the rest will get. But it is so worth it.

Arty1121
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Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 16, 2017 at 2:45pm

Scuba CPA, I think one of the best ways to really polish a language is to mingle with others. There is a website where you can meet up with groups and speak Spanish. This is the best method in my opinion. Website name: https://www.meetup.com/

Carmen1038
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West Chester, PA
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Jul 27, 2016
Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17pm

Congrats ScubaCPA! Thanks for sharing your experience. Very helpful!

Fabrice
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San Diego, CA
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Sep 17, 2012
Sep 19, 2017 at 10:29am

Congrats Scuba!

Ashoka Tano
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Germantown, Maryland
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Feb 3, 2017
Sep 20, 2017 at 9:34am

nice work! share some helpful hints, will ya?

MarieA
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United States
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Jan 26, 2011
Sep 27, 2017 at 3:07am

Scuba, congratulations! Community and success stories are great for motivation! :-)

andy@fluenz
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France
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Feb 6, 2011
Sep 28, 2017 at 2:17pm

Bravo!

ojosdeverdes
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belleplaine, mn
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Dec 2, 2015
Oct 1, 2017 at 12:45pm

@Scuba, do you plan to poke around, try out a few sessions in the upgrade?

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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May 22, 2014
Oct 2, 2017 at 9:18am

ojos - Actually I switched over to the Spanish Latin America Upgraded about a year ago. At that point I was about mid way through Level 3. The sessions are longer and more challenging.

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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May 22, 2014
Oct 2, 2017 at 9:23am

Everyone - Thank you for the congrats. What I have done since finishing Fluenz is engage a live tutuor from Mexico through iTalki. I speak to her by Skype for an hour each Monday. The cost is $11 per hour. I have had three sessions so far and it has been a big help to my conversation and listening skills. I am also continuing my Friday evening attendance at a Spanish/English conversation hour sponsored by a coffee shop in the town where I live part time in Mexico. Fluenz gave me a great foundation for grammer and vocabulary, but there is nothing like having a real conversation. I'm also trying to speak as much Spanish as I can with shopkeepers, restaurant staff, and taxi drivers.

jhallettbc
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Vancouver, BC
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Jul 16, 2016
Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58pm

I am on lesson 21 of Level 5 and can't believe I've stuck with it for over a year. I really started making progress in this level. I also have a weekly Spanish tutor which helps a lot. I now no longer gets anxious trying to get every word--generally I know I'll get the gist. I'm also watching Narcos which is entertaining as well as helping my auditory comprehension. I feel confident enough now to enroll in a language school in Oaxaca for 2 weeks. John

Kyle Houser
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Jan 26, 2011
Nov 28, 2017 at 11:49am

Great work Scuba! Learning a second language as an adult is one of the hardest things I have done. I have also finished all five levels of Spanish. My experience with Fluenz has been excellent. I think it is as good as a computer based language program could possibly be and I recommend it to everyone.

Askelly
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Ottawa, Ontario
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Dec 29, 2014
Nov 30, 2017 at 10:31am

I am just starting Spanish. I'm trying to get an idea of how often I should do the lessons to make meaningful progress. Would 1 hour a day be too little and 5 hours a day too much?

I realize everyone learns at a different rate, has more or less time available etc. etc. By example, the Duolingo language app restricts people from just burning through lesson after lesson - after all learning a language is not like completing levels in a video game.

For Fluenz, would a lesson a day be too little (too slow and take forever) or should you strive to complete a couple of lessons a day?

Any thoughts?

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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May 22, 2014
Nov 30, 2017 at 1:49pm

Askelly - I don't think an hour a day is enough for two reasons. Continuity and how long it will take you to complete the course (it's probably 500 to 600 hours of total material depending on your speed). I think one lesson a day (which is 3 or 4 hours a lesson) every other day (you need to give your brain a break like any other muscle) is the best. Or a lesson a day for 5 days and then take 2 days off if you really want to finish fast. I found completing a lesson all in one day was very helpful even if I had to take an hour break in the middle of the lesson. The times that I stopped in the middle of a lesson and tried to pick up where I left of a day or two later did not work. This is all just my opinion from my experience. Everyone is different as you said.

JonG
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Sep 30, 2017
Dec 1, 2017 at 11:04pm

following up on your methodology - did you do the entire lesson twice or just the exercises?
what did you find was the key for you?

ScubaCPA
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Portland CT & Cozumel Mexico, Mexico &
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May 22, 2014
Dec 17, 2017 at 11:45am

JonG - Yes, I did the entire lesson twice. I would basically do a leapfrog. For example: Monday Lesson 1, Tuesday Lesson 2, Wednesday Lesson 3, Thursday Repeat Lesson 1, Friday Lesson 4, Saturday Repeat Lesson 2, Monday Lesson 5, Tuesday Repeat Lesson 3 ... etc. What would happen is that during my repeat of lesson 1 after having done lesson 2 and 3 (which contained some lesson 1 reinforcement) a bell would go off in my head and I'd say "Oh that's why".

Mickeya13
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Pompano Beach, FL
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Jun 18, 2014
Oct 18, 2018 at 10:13am

Felicidades!

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