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archiewilkie
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Ottawa, ON
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Mar 21, 2012 at 1:38pm

I might have my premises wrong. But when one is asked, "no se donde ES el museo?" why does one reply, "el museo ESTA alla."?

Robert D. Williams
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Mar 21, 2012 at 3:05pm

Estar is used for such things as location, health, temporary qualities. "No sè donde està el museo." but "El museo es un edificio grande."

archiewilkie
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Mar 21, 2012 at 3:17pm

Fair comment as far as it goes, but on DVD 2, exercise 16, in "repeat", what one is supposed to repeat is: "no se donde es el museo".

Pope Benedict XVI
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Mar 21, 2012 at 4:39pm

I saw the exact same thing yesterday on the same lesson and was slightly confused. I honestly think it is a mistake. I checked with a friend of mine who teaches highschool spanish and she said it was inconsistent.

James Putney
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Mar 25, 2012 at 12:15pm

My understanding is there are cases where either is correct. In this instance, where the museum is located is an inate property of the museum, the same as it is gray or it is tall. So that would mean one could use ser. The rule of usting estar for place, I think, refers to situations when someone or something is in a particular place, but later might be somewhere else. It is a transient condition, therefore estar. With regard to Robert's comment, which is correct, in this case the location of the museum is not a temporary quality.

Pope Benedict XVI
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Mar 25, 2012 at 3:44pm

I believe you are correct in your assertion James. The problem is that it is inconsistent with the rest of the program, which makes it especially confusing for beginners.

Leo
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Mar 27, 2012 at 11:17am

You will actually hear "es" or "está" used in a sentence like this because it's a little ambiguous. If you use "es" you are saying you don't know where the museum "exists" rather than where it is "located." A little strange, but in Spanish you will hear both. Generally, though, it is safe to stick to the location definition in using "estar".

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